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    There's been a lot of confusion around our removal from BMG and many Staff are also unaware of the series of events that have led to this.
    We do not know the full extent of the accusations levied at us. They have not been shared with us in the interest of protecting the reporters/victims, and I respect that. However, it also means that we are unable to accurately assess our own guilt or innocence in any of the specific issues.

    This statement comes from the best of my knowledge on the matter. I know my name comes up frequently in the reports made and I am aware of some of my own guilt.

    In my very early days of URPG, I engaged in behaviour that was crude and hurtful towards another member and was classified as sexual harassment. I received an infraction on the BMG Forums. I was not banned from URPG for this and I won't comment on if this was the right decision or not. There were others who were guilty and we were all punished in the same manner. Out of all of us, though, I am the one still here and the one that has gone the furthest. I was later promoted and gained prominence in URPG to end up where I am today - hopefully on the merits of my work and contributions, but it appears to be the opinion that this was done without correctly factoring in my negatives and transgressions. I believe this is one point of contention regarding the failures of URPG Staff, which I also cannot comment on. There have been times when I tactlessly made fun of the fact that I received this infraction, further hurting the member. When I realised the effect my conduct was having, I apologised and ceased doing so, to the best of my ability. I do not dispute any of this and I am sorry for it.

    I have been led to believe there are also reports of other, recent events for which I am allegedly guilty. I do not know what these events are, or who may have been hurt by something stupid or tactless that I have said or done.
    I can't plead guilt or innocence, I do not know the context, but I am sincerely sorry to anyone I have hurt. It pains me to think that people have been hurt while I remained blissfully ignorant that my actions may have been causing harm. I wish I could give personal apologies, but whoever these people are, I respect your right for anonymity.

    I'm a bit of a dickhead, I’m sarcastic, and I tend towards a crude NSFW-ish sense of humour. I'm sure you're all aware of that. For a long time I too have been aware of my faults, and I always aim to keep that in check with the help of other mods calling me out on any particular comment as we would for other members. I slip up from time to time. We’re all normal people.

    This is a list of other events that I am aware of which have occurred in URPG's history while on BMG relating to sexual harassment, and my knowledge of how we have responded:

    - The "revenge porn" incident listed, I believe refers to LS sharing pictures of Alaska. LS was banned from the URPG.
    - MaverickKaiser was reported for harassing multiple, underage members and writing explicit fanfics involving himself and these members. He was banned.
    - A member named GraylingMurdoch joined URPG, for which we found compelling evidence that he was facing court charges for inappropriate conduct towards minors. He was banned.

    Recently, there's been a few other issues in our community ranging from hostile rivalries to toxic hate for other members, and Harry has made a statement on these issues here:
    http://forums.petalburgwoods.com/sho...l=1#post132031

    As URPG’s Second, I have invested a lot into this game. I’ve spent a lot of time and effort acting as a problem solver and a mediator. Listening to people and finding compromises. Trying to ease and repair hurt feelings. I often grant people the benefit of the doubt based on the belief that their actions were made with the best intentions for URPG. In retrospect, I sometimes wonder if this benefit was given too willingly and I’m unsure if that counts as my failure or theirs. Certainly, people have and are criticising our handling of some matters – all I can say is that we acted how we believed was right and fair. The one accusation I believe is baseless is one of favouritism.

    I don’t excuse the mistakes I made in the past. I don’t know what mistakes I may have made recently. What I will defend - my decisions as Head Ref and Second were all made with the best intentions for URPG and its members. I will continue to do my best to support, lead, rebuild and move this community forward while you, our members, still wish to have me do so.

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    So I don't know how much my input will be worth, considering my history with URPG and both Pe2k and BMG as a whole. But for some reason my friends and I still care enough about URPG to follow the drama that has come to light this past month, and so I think I should speak up on their behalf. It's hard to believe that I've been away from this place long enough to consider myself an outsider, but just know that what I'm here to say comes from not just one 2004 era URPGer, but from a group of old members that Synthesis mentioned, sso_. Whether or not they decide to say something personally is up to them, but for now I'll be speaking my own opinions and observations based on what we discussed amongst ourselves

    I believe the biggest problem you guys are having isn't the BMG ban, or the inappropriate actions of certain members (both past and current), but ultimately an issue of leadership. 6 years ago, when Hkim first took over as the Head of URPG from Jack of Clovers, I believe me and several others expressed our grievances with this decision, and after seeing what some of the staff has had to say, it seems we were right. When Jack came around and appointed Hkim as his replacement, it was at a time when neither Jack NOR Harry were even participating in the community. For the longest time Loyal Arcanine had been running URPG in Jack's place. Granted, URPG was mostly just for battling and stories at the time, but he was a great leader and babysitter for the rest of us dumb kids learning about the internet. Back then staff and the general membership were basically the same group. There were staff only groups, but everything was fairly transparent. However, one week LA took a vacation, and coincidentally that very same week Jack not only returned, but handed over URPG to Harry. Naturally that soured some opinions, but going past that, Harry himself started to show signs of not being a very capable leader. As Nitro and Elysia have mentioned, Harry has a tendency to handle matters privately. But the way he addresses these issues comes across as very manipulative, and both chat logs with him that have been posted clearly show that this isn't just my imagination. I personally had these kinds of conversations with him when I was working on the main Pe2k website, and when I spoke out about my issues with him as a leader. He also contacted The Jr Trainer in the same manner, when he was suspected to be leaking Staff Chatlogs.

    If there is any sense of disconnect between the Moderation and the general members of URPG, it comes from the way Harry handles "leading" the URPG. We saw this coming years ago, but now it's finally coming out from the moderators themselves. If you guys want to bring back trust with whatever the remaining playerbase is like now, you have to start being more transparent, INCLUDING publicly announcing bans so that there are no misconceptions about why that person is no longer part of the community, and Harry needs to start taking a more active role in leading projects. The fact that there were 2 separate factions of people trying to setup 2 distinct RPs would never have happened if Hkim didn't just appoint people to work on things, he needs to actually be involved with the groups instead of just trying to fix their mistakes and subtly manipulating members behind the scenes.

    One major event that is worth mentioning, and at the time was a pretty touchy subject, is the merger with BMG. As a member with no real connection to the moderating staff, this came as a complete surprise to a lot of us. There just wasn't any communication between the higher-ups and the users. So take the reservations we all had about having Harry as our leader, and add in the fact that we would get an entire new forum, and you're left with a pretty nice opportunity for prejudice. While I do agree that URPG absolutely needed BMG to survive, the merge felt like something Harry did on a whim, rather than something that had been planned months in advance. Now whether or not that was actually the case is irrelevant, what matters is that the public perception of the merger was unfavorable. Had there been more communication amongst the userbase, maybe it wouldn't have played out like it did, but the BMG merger essentially created multiple cliques of people who felt like they were Pe2kers, BMGers, or simply URPGers. The way things were handled is what would essentially create this rift between the groups, and that's when factions of people started to form. Now communities will always have sub-factions, but those factions should be able to mingle with each other without conflict, and that is something that wasn't possible with the Pe2k-BMG merge. As time went on, BMG members slowly became more and more integrated into the URPG moderation, which further reinforced the disconnect people were having with Hkim. Suddenly people who would have been put in charge of areas on Pe2k were being passed over in favor of BMG members promoting Pro-BMG groups like the Dojo and After Hours.

    Moving on to the "problematic" behavior of the staff and members. URPG started as a yahoo group a long ass time ago. That group was populated mostly by adults, and when the game moved to Pe2k, the playerbase remained mostly adult. Anybody who remembers the URPG Chatrooms in the 2000's will probably agree with me when I say that URPG was never child friendly. But that's the way things were ran back then. It's no surprise at all that inappropriate things were happening behind the scenes, and I was apart of them. The problem with the move to BMG, and I imagine the BMG staff's issue with URPG as a whole, is how hands-off things are moderated. Bulbagarden is a much bigger forum than Pe2k ever was, and that means they generate a LOT more underage traffic than URPG was used to. The URPG community used to be a bunch of 18-30 year olds with a few kids (who obviously lied about their age) in the mix, but joining BMG slowly started to shift the demographic towards the 13-18 range. However, the lax approach to moderating the behavior of members never changed from the old days. Of course BMG couldn't trust you guys to keep things together, because URPG was never something that was strictly overseen. If you guys decide to move to another major forum, I think you will have to seriously reconsider how you moderate things. The hands-off approach everybody is used to won't fly when an entity outside of URPG gets involved.

    Now this is where I start speaking more of my personal opinions rather than just general observations. Given that only one of us is a current member of the URPG, feel free to completely overlook this. But if any of it at all lines up with your opinions, then take this into consideration.

    Monbrey has a lot of power over URPG. Moreso than Hkim even, since everything now runs through his own website instead of being hosted locally on forums. This puts URPG in a really difficult position when it comes to punishing him. Granted I don't think he's the type of person to completely screw everybody over for no good reason, from an outsider's perspective it appears like he has the game by the balls. Normally this isn't relevant, but this ties in with the fact that Monbrey has participated in sexual misconduct on the forums in the past. There were frequent tinychat gatherings among URPG members where nudity and vulgarity was not only acceptable, but encouraged, with many members, Monbrey included, participating in their underwear. Naturally, that sets a bad example among the community, especially given Monbrey's position. The URPG rules clearly say that any sexual misconduct towards other members would result in severe punishment, something that you guys enforced with LS, MaverickKaiser, and GraylingMurdoch. While I'm not going to argue with banning the former 2, but the Murdoch ban seems really questionable to me. According to Monbrey, he was facing court charges for inappropriate conduct towards minors in his personal life when he was banned. But why would you ban somebody who was on trial (i.e. Innocent, because he wasn't proven guilty) in their personal life, while somebody that has ERP'd and harrassed fellow URPG members is the 2nd-in-command? It's these kinds of decisions without any real explanation or reason that leads to people questioning the authority and management, and ultimately leads to people, good people like Nitro and Elysia, leaving the community.

    You guys have already lost tons of cool people over petty drama like this in the past, so to come back years later to find that it's STILL happening is disgusting. I joined URPG when I was 10 years old, and while I left multiple times, I always found myself drawn back to it. The people I met here are my closest friends, we've been chatting on a daily basis to this day, 7 years after most of us gave up on URPG for good. Normally I would just sit back and laugh at all this drama happening on some silly forum RP, but this was MY silly forum RPG, and I felt the need to speak up about it. Now this isn't me announcing my return to the game, the days of me getting any enjoyment from it are gone, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to just let things fall apart. One thing that was always stressed was the permanence of the internet, things I uploaded were supposed to always be there for somebody to find. But now not only did I lose Pe2k, but now BMG is inaccessible to me too. If URPG is going to die, I'd rather it be because people stopped wanting to play, rather than because the staff can't take responsibility for itself or its members. And I strongly encourage anybody left who still cares about the game to also voice their opinions. If I was brave enough to admit that I've been stalking an entire forum RP for years, surely you guys can speak up about whatever issues you have with the way things have been handled now and in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyurgh View Post
    So I don't know how much my input will be worth, considering my history with URPG and both Pe2k and BMG as a whole. But for some reason my friends and I still care enough about URPG to follow the drama that has come to light this past month, and so I think I should speak up on their behalf. It's hard to believe that I've been away from this place long enough to consider myself an outsider, but just know that what I'm here to say comes from not just one 2004 era URPGer, but from a group of old members that Synthesis mentioned, sso_. Whether or not they decide to say something personally is up to them, but for now I'll be speaking my own opinions and observations based on what we discussed amongst ourselves

    I believe the biggest problem you guys are having isn't the BMG ban, or the inappropriate actions of certain members (both past and current), but ultimately an issue of leadership. 6 years ago, when Hkim first took over as the Head of URPG from Jack of Clovers, I believe me and several others expressed our grievances with this decision, and after seeing what some of the staff has had to say, it seems we were right. When Jack came around and appointed Hkim as his replacement, it was at a time when neither Jack NOR Harry were even participating in the community. For the longest time Loyal Arcanine had been running URPG in Jack's place. Granted, URPG was mostly just for battling and stories at the time, but he was a great leader and babysitter for the rest of us dumb kids learning about the internet. Back then staff and the general membership were basically the same group. There were staff only groups, but everything was fairly transparent. However, one week LA took a vacation, and coincidentally that very same week Jack not only returned, but handed over URPG to Harry. Naturally that soured some opinions, but going past that, Harry himself started to show signs of not being a very capable leader. As Nitro and Elysia have mentioned, Harry has a tendency to handle matters privately. But the way he addresses these issues comes across as very manipulative, and both chat logs with him that have been posted clearly show that this isn't just my imagination. I personally had these kinds of conversations with him when I was working on the main Pe2k website, and when I spoke out about my issues with him as a leader. He also contacted The Jr Trainer in the same manner, when he was suspected to be leaking Staff Chatlogs.

    If there is any sense of disconnect between the Moderation and the general members of URPG, it comes from the way Harry handles "leading" the URPG. We saw this coming years ago, but now it's finally coming out from the moderators themselves. If you guys want to bring back trust with whatever the remaining playerbase is like now, you have to start being more transparent, INCLUDING publicly announcing bans so that there are no misconceptions about why that person is no longer part of the community, and Harry needs to start taking a more active role in leading projects. The fact that there were 2 separate factions of people trying to setup 2 distinct RPs would never have happened if Hkim didn't just appoint people to work on things, he needs to actually be involved with the groups instead of just trying to fix their mistakes and subtly manipulating members behind the scenes.

    One major event that is worth mentioning, and at the time was a pretty touchy subject, is the merger with BMG. As a member with no real connection to the moderating staff, this came as a complete surprise to a lot of us. There just wasn't any communication between the higher-ups and the users. So take the reservations we all had about having Harry as our leader, and add in the fact that we would get an entire new forum, and you're left with a pretty nice opportunity for prejudice. While I do agree that URPG absolutely needed BMG to survive, the merge felt like something Harry did on a whim, rather than something that had been planned months in advance. Now whether or not that was actually the case is irrelevant, what matters is that the public perception of the merger was unfavorable. Had there been more communication amongst the userbase, maybe it wouldn't have played out like it did, but the BMG merger essentially created multiple cliques of people who felt like they were Pe2kers, BMGers, or simply URPGers. The way things were handled is what would essentially create this rift between the groups, and that's when factions of people started to form. Now communities will always have sub-factions, but those factions should be able to mingle with each other without conflict, and that is something that wasn't possible with the Pe2k-BMG merge. As time went on, BMG members slowly became more and more integrated into the URPG moderation, which further reinforced the disconnect people were having with Hkim. Suddenly people who would have been put in charge of areas on Pe2k were being passed over in favor of BMG members promoting Pro-BMG groups like the Dojo and After Hours.

    Moving on to the "problematic" behavior of the staff and members. URPG started as a yahoo group a long ass time ago. That group was populated mostly by adults, and when the game moved to Pe2k, the playerbase remained mostly adult. Anybody who remembers the URPG Chatrooms in the 2000's will probably agree with me when I say that URPG was never child friendly. But that's the way things were ran back then. It's no surprise at all that inappropriate things were happening behind the scenes, and I was apart of them. The problem with the move to BMG, and I imagine the BMG staff's issue with URPG as a whole, is how hands-off things are moderated. Bulbagarden is a much bigger forum than Pe2k ever was, and that means they generate a LOT more underage traffic than URPG was used to. The URPG community used to be a bunch of 18-30 year olds with a few kids (who obviously lied about their age) in the mix, but joining BMG slowly started to shift the demographic towards the 13-18 range. However, the lax approach to moderating the behavior of members never changed from the old days. Of course BMG couldn't trust you guys to keep things together, because URPG was never something that was strictly overseen. If you guys decide to move to another major forum, I think you will have to seriously reconsider how you moderate things. The hands-off approach everybody is used to won't fly when an entity outside of URPG gets involved.

    Now this is where I start speaking more of my personal opinions rather than just general observations. Given that only one of us is a current member of the URPG, feel free to completely overlook this. But if any of it at all lines up with your opinions, then take this into consideration.

    Monbrey has a lot of power over URPG. Moreso than Hkim even, since everything now runs through his own website instead of being hosted locally on forums. This puts URPG in a really difficult position when it comes to punishing him. Granted I don't think he's the type of person to completely screw everybody over for no good reason, from an outsider's perspective it appears like he has the game by the balls. Normally this isn't relevant, but this ties in with the fact that Monbrey has participated in sexual misconduct on the forums in the past. There were frequent tinychat gatherings among URPG members where nudity and vulgarity was not only acceptable, but encouraged, with many members, Monbrey included, participating in their underwear. Naturally, that sets a bad example among the community, especially given Monbrey's position. The URPG rules clearly say that any sexual misconduct towards other members would result in severe punishment, something that you guys enforced with LS, MaverickKaiser, and GraylingMurdoch. While I'm not going to argue with banning the former 2, but the Murdoch ban seems really questionable to me. According to Monbrey, he was facing court charges for inappropriate conduct towards minors in his personal life when he was banned. But why would you ban somebody who was on trial (i.e. Innocent, because he wasn't proven guilty) in their personal life, while somebody that has ERP'd and harrassed fellow URPG members is the 2nd-in-command? It's these kinds of decisions without any real explanation or reason that leads to people questioning the authority and management, and ultimately leads to people, good people like Nitro and Elysia, leaving the community.

    You guys have already lost tons of cool people over petty drama like this in the past, so to come back years later to find that it's STILL happening is disgusting. I joined URPG when I was 10 years old, and while I left multiple times, I always found myself drawn back to it. The people I met here are my closest friends, we've been chatting on a daily basis to this day, 7 years after most of us gave up on URPG for good. Normally I would just sit back and laugh at all this drama happening on some silly forum RP, but this was MY silly forum RPG, and I felt the need to speak up about it. Now this isn't me announcing my return to the game, the days of me getting any enjoyment from it are gone, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to just let things fall apart. One thing that was always stressed was the permanence of the internet, things I uploaded were supposed to always be there for somebody to find. But now not only did I lose Pe2k, but now BMG is inaccessible to me too. If URPG is going to die, I'd rather it be because people stopped wanting to play, rather than because the staff can't take responsibility for itself or its members. And I strongly encourage anybody left who still cares about the game to also voice their opinions. If I was brave enough to admit that I've been stalking an entire forum RP for years, surely you guys can speak up about whatever issues you have with the way things have been handled now and in the past.
    For the most part this post has well-thought and insightful sentiments. I agree fully with almost all of it. I just wanted to address up a few misconceptions for the sake of clarity:

    URPG's moderation is no longer hands-off. This kind of approach hasn't been used for a very long time. We are very much involved as a team in discussing discipline and moderating where necessary, but of course we can and will continue to improve.

    Monbrey does not have URPG "by the balls." This kind of implies that he's willing to use the tremendous support he provides for our game against us as leverage. This is not the case. I have discussed this with him in private and while I will not quote private conversations, I can say that I know he would not leave us high-and-dry without a calc or infohub server if such time arose that the majority of URPG believed he should step down. Right now, this is not the case for the majority of us.

    Finally, the Grayling Murdoch scenario and its comparison to Monbrey. As I understand it, Grayling Murdoch was the name of someone who was already a registered sex offender in Indiana. Upon further investigation, his IP address was traced to a home in Indiana and this information was simply too compelling to allow for his participation in a game which, as you acknowledge, has a demographic of increasingly lower-aged individuals.
    As most if not all of our staff has understood what occurred in the past with Monbrey's behavior, he was already infracted and punished based on what BMG and URPG thought was appropriate based on his actions. We thought he had already been punished for the worst of what he had done, and was allowed to continue without a ban because he actions did not warrant one. I cannot speak on if this was a just course of action or not because I wasn't there and I don't have all the details. Maybe Monbrey should have been banned, I genuinely do not know. I just simply do not believe that most of us have the information necessary to make that call 7 years later.


    But I dont want you to think that the purpose of this reply is to refute what your overall message is. I'm happy that you decided to post, and it gives me a good feeling to see that even members from many years ago still care about this game and are willing to share thoughts that might help to save it. I am indeed grateful for your support.
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    Hello.

    I see that some older players are coming back in light of recent events. So for those who don't know, I'm a BMG super mod, and I've also been an invested player in the URPG since June, 2017. I was also involved in some of the November 2017 events that led to the ban of member Weir.

    First off, I apologize for simply vanishing from the server and being silent until now. I also apologize to anyone who's come to me with questions and have received vague answers about BMG removing URPG until now. I left the server a while ago to think on my conversation with Weir about Elysia/Onmyo and other things I was unhappy about in the community at the time. Since then I've only discovered one awful thing after another about URPG and its past, and I'm posting in public for the first time now because it's come to my attention, too, that my part in this has been misinterpreted and misunderstood by many. In fact, within five minutes of URPG being removed from BMG, I received messages from some who were wanting to know what my role in the incident was. I have been given permission from above my paygrade to reveal what I know at this time. I realize the inherent risk of disapproval and judgment as a result of this, but in the hopes of clarifying things as best I can while not overstepping the privacy of others involved, here I am.

    I reported URPG initially. I mentioned my obvious bias to the BMG admins, and I both wanted and expected them to take the situation out of my hands. They did, and I didn't question it. The full investigation was theirs to conduct, and the final decision to remove URPG entirely was theirs. I trusted my BMG leadership to decide the fate of this game I've invested so much time in because I no longer had reason to trust URPG leadership. That is the long and short of the BMG situation.

    Similarly, it is solely up to BMG admins regarding the retrieval of stats, logs from the staff subforum, and the possibility of URPG returning to BMG in the future. At this time I only know that stats are being discussed and that BMG admin Dig is already in touch with URPG's new head, Swiftgallade46. I know for certain that URPG was not hard wiped, only archived for BMG admins to see. I have no access to or say in the discussions related to BMG from here on out, and everything I know at the time of this post is here. Admittedly, it's not much, and I'm sorry for that. I would've poked around for more answers, but I went into the server to see what else I could help with from a BMG mod standpoint before a new head was elected. Swift knows who to talk to already.

    Ever since URPG became a part of BMG, URPG has asked BMG staff members for privacy (ie., for BMG staff like me to not read the URPG staff subforum). URPG staff members lost that right to privacy the moment adamantine was leaked to the public with permission from Elysia along with the context that URPG staff and leadership have, yes, sweeped under the rug many acts of sexual harassment, revenge porn, and favoritism. There were apology messages written to Elysia from a handful of staff who cared, and I appreciate that. But that's all there was. No proper discussion about moving forward was conducted, and not a single word weighed in by Monbrey or HKim.

    I appreciate Monbrey for coming forward on this for transparency's sake while simultaneously not infringing on the privacy of others. As he admitted, his name is one I saw a lot, and from the opinion of an actual player, I realize the work he's put into the game itself over the years. Regardless, the way in which he achieved his admin position is highly questionable as well as his presence in the past as a regular member. Swift mentioned being unsure if he should have been banned. The extremity to which BMG has gone to erase URPG's association with it should be answer enough.

    There is a misconception about only Monbrey and HKim being banned. They were not the only members banned, nor were they banned simply for being URPG's leaders. Pidge and ChainReaction01 were also banned from BMG, but they are not active and have not been for years as far as I know. Monbrey and HKim were banned for being prime offenders of the allegations stated in BMG's announcement - Monbrey for the sexual-related allegations specifically, and HKim for favoritism and sweeping various dangerous situations under the rug.

    What compelled me to report URPG to BMG in the end? Well, I was able to read the logs from URPG's BMG staff subforum of the sexual harassment incidents mentioned by Monbrey. Yes, those members were banned. Yes, those members were guilty of what they were banned for. But those facts, without further information to accompany them, insinuate that staff have indeed taken the proper steps necessary to do what's right. I realize no one has access logs anymore aside from BMG admins and that many haven't thought of these incidents since they happened. I see no lies in Monbrey's post, only holes.

    I saw how it took weeks of passive debate to reach a decision. I saw how Monbrey and HKim - HKim particularly - hardly ever weighed in on these discussions. HKim rarely hinted at the idea that he even read staff's messages in the discussions. When HKim did post, he would defend these sexual offenders any way he could and allowed some offenders to save face once they departed from URPG. Pidge most notably was able to "retire with honor" from his time in URPG despite having caused one of the biggest staff fiascos to date and despite having defended another member's (Feng's) right to pass around a 14 year old Alaskapigeon's nudes with the majority of the players active at that time.

    One member passing around Alaskapigeon's nudes in retaliation for making him angry on several occasions, Dodo, was banned by URPG long ago as well. But staff didn't even know it and blatantly asked HKim to make an announcement to staff and/or the public because they had no idea and had to hear it from a third party source. HKim attempted to defend Dodo by claiming he was exercising his right to freedom of speech by sending pornography to other children. Other staff assumed that Alaskapigeon must have been asking for her nudes to be passed around and that because this was something happening in private chats, it could not be dealt with.

    As Monbrey says, BMG has had to step in before, but not just to infract Monbrey. BMG stepped in particularly during the Grayling Murdock situation. Archaic himself claimed that Grayling Murdock was banned from BMG and there was absolutely no reason to even debate allowing him to remain among the URPG community. Staff such as ChainReaction01 wanted to save face and let Grayling Murdock be because they didn't want the players to think they were stalking members in their real lives. The list goes on... But really, the fact that there were no announcements made about Grayling Murdock is alarming on its own. No URPG members outside of staff, young or old, knew to protect themselves if approached by him.

    The speeches and announcements which HKim has made have been vague at best - strings of words that sound pretty and might make people feel good for a while but ultimately have no meaning in the long-term to bring about the change someone in a leadership position should be able to inspire. The recent speech, "A Call for Respect," is indicative of this. The conversation with HKim in adamantine shows how little he thought of the situation which brought on such a speech. Speech is hardly even a proper word for that thread and, as we all know, Ralin - not a staff member, not a URPG leader - was the one who got players to open up about recent events.

    The act of favoritism is less severe, but prevalent nonetheless. Your own promotions, Monbrey, seem to be a prime example of this. Despite some members of URPG - including staff - being around to witness how you overstepped bounds with your NSFW-like sense of humor, they vouched for you anyway. They simply stated that they wanted to wait for the situation to blow over so people would forget about it, then promote you. No one mentioned that they shouldn't hire you yet because of the fact you sexually harassed other members specifically.

    There are other recent instances, too. There's staff who are still staff even though I rarely ever saw them post or contribute to any worthwhile discussion in the staff subforum. There's staff who are still staff despite being known to leak and lie to players. These specific instances have been mentioned elsewhere, and there's no need for me to delve further into them, although you yourself admitted to me recently that you're well aware that one of the Officials leaks to Weir, now a banned member of the community. There was a discussion in the URPG staff subforum on BMG regarding leaking information to Weir most recently in November when his ban was being discussed, and it was very obvious that staff as a whole knew it was happening. Yet it was not a matter of staff needing to stop or face the penalties. It was 2-3 staff members who were not offenders (to my knowledge) pointing out that they wanted it to stop, but no official stance was made on your or HKim's part (as far as I know). I vaguely remember you having input in the discussion, but I can't say this piece of information is at the forefront of my memory after everything I've learned.

    These consistent oversights are what can lead staff to thinking it okay to become prominent members of side servers, where they and others have looked upon the playerbase, then picked and chosen which members are cool enough to join and get the latest scoop on things happening beyond the scenes while everyone else gets left out. I understand having close friends among the community, I understand some left once the toxicity became apparent, and I realize everyone talks shit. I realize, too, that I was part of some side servers. But it went too far in the November case, and the scope of everything is clearly far bigger than most people originally thought.

    Regarding HKim's statement linked, URPG being "just" a fan game does not matter to me, and the passion in which people are speaking out tells me that a majority of the community does not view it as just a fan game, either. And even if it is just a fan game to some, what everyone in this game says and does is a reflection of who they are in some way. Unfortunately, the community has shown its bad side far too much for nearly a decade now, and so, BMG has no compelling reason at this time to consider debating with its leadership or staff members in an effort to to maintain its presence on the forum.

    To close this off, I'm disappointed. That's such a massive understatement, one I don't know how to articulate properly. I can only reiterate that I cannot defend URPG as a BMG mod. While some people have lost respect for BMG, I have lost respect for URPG. I did not leave "because of Elysia" or "because of Weir," as has been the story floating around for some time now. My word is here now, in the open. I left and can't come back because I cannot stand the thought of contributing to a community which has hurt so many people any longer. I understand if people are angry and wouldn't want to see me coming back anyway after this admission. I understand nostalgia and wanting to help improve what's been damaged. I cannot find it in me to move on with you guys. I'm sorry.

    I have tried not to overstep bounds on privacy, either, for respect of those who may have been involved in the investigation. Those involved in the full investigation are free to speak on their own behalf. As for me, I could not simply stand by knowing that URPG has developed a level of toxicity in the community in a way that goes above and beyond the situations that happened in November 2017 alone. November 2017 was not one isolated incident, as HKim's statement claims. The root of the problem started years and years ago, as has been claimed by other posters here. I realize I was not around for those times, but the logs, unaltered and left for all of BMG to access at any given moment, told me everything I needed to know and made my decision to report it unbelievably easy. The urgency and thoroughness of the investigation conducted by BMG admins after my initial report similarly speaks for itself on how extensive and overarching URPG's problems are; within hours of my report, the URPG staff subforum was searched in and out.

    I apologize for anyone who's been completely in the dark and innocent, and I apologize that me coming out of my silence is happening like this. I apologize for anyone who's been swept up in the drama somehow and to anyone who lost their information when URPG got wiped on BMG.

    Most of all, I'm sorry to those who still genuinely want to see URPG succeed and are having trouble figuring out what to do from here. My suggestions are to reconsider the structure of staff (what's the difference between an official and a mod tbh?), develop a proper system to deal with reports and stick to it, develop a proper system to deal with staff who break staff rules and stick to it, and to make and encourage every avenue of communication possible. Swift is also very much on the right track already with how things said and done off the server itself still involve URPG and are punished accordingly; URPG as it stands is not in a place where it can trust people to go off on their own in DMs, voice chats, or side servers without damaging speculation, rumors, and toxicity happening as a result. Staff or those who are friends with staff are not the only players who should be heard. Maintaining new members should be put on the backburner for the time being for the community as it is to restabilize itself.

    If there are other questions, please let me know. I'll do what I can, but as I said, Swift is in contact with BMG admin Dig. So my part in this is pretty much over.
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    @diamondpearl876; I have to thank you for your post. I sincerely mean it. Being left in the dark was very difficult for us, and the information brought to light here can and will help us move forward. We will NOT repeat these mistakes. You made the right decision in reporting URPG to Bulbagarden Staff. I will be the first to say it here. You are a neutral party. You looked at these threads from afar and made a judgement call. It's a call that we cannot help but trust because you are completely unbiased. It's a call I am ultimately happy you made. We cant move forward with skeletons in our closet. We cant move forward if we dont study our mistakes. We cant know our mistakes if they arent faced with consequences or brought to our attention.

    I am saddened that we could not reflect on these mistakes without having to first be removed from another wonderful community. I am saddened that I may have played a part in all of this. I take responsibility for being complacent with the lack of action we took on several of these issues. No more. I am here to do a job and I will do it. Concretely: we will be tougher on bans. We will not beat around the bush and endlessly defend members who clearly do not deserve it (this is NOT a reference to anyone). We will be tougher and we will take action.

    Finally, I have to make a promise. To DP and many other members. The discomfort many people feel with our community is very upsetting to me. People WANT to play this game. Through all of this, people still WANT to play the actual game. But they leave and give up on it. And why? The answer, unfortunately, is that they are not comfortable. Be it salt, toxicity, or lack of trust people are being driven away. Some forever. I promise to do everything I can to change this. This is a community that will make everyone feel comfortable and content. This is a community that people will use as solace from sources of toxicity and hate elsewhere.


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    @swiftgallade46;

    I appreciate the time you took out of your hectic day to respond to me, heh. :P I believe I did the right thing, too, and I have no regrets other than me not being able to get permission to post sooner to clarify for those in the dark. I didn’t want to jump the gun and compromise the reports of those involved in any way, and I hope you all understand. BMG admin Dig can attest to how many times I bugged him to be able to give something, anything to you guys, lmaoo. (Sorry, Dig. <3) The posts where people have chosen to speak out despite the confusion and tension have made me immensely proud. I wasn’t sure what to expect, and I still don’t, not entirely, because everyone is still hurting, understandably so. But I believe URPG is in good hands with you.


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    Exclamation Can you guys stop making threads. I don’t know which one I’m supposed to post this in.

    "I lost faith in my precious online community because of him, and I quit URPG a day before Pidge stepped down."

    I don't know why I'm writing this. I promised myself I would never post to URPG again. Yet, I felt compelled to do so after reading "Adamantine", especially the line quoted above. I feel like I owe it to Elysia and whoever at some point thought of me as some sort of mentor (Ash K. comes to mind). This message is addressed to those people, but it answers some questions for the community as a whole.

    I don't know much about URPG after my leave, and there are many names I don't recognize today, Elysia being one, but I did know a Kai-Mei. Many of the things she mentioned, I was in the dark and/or it was past my time. However, I want to apologize, regardless if I was involved or not. I'm sorry Kai-Mei for what you had to go through. I'm sorry that you were bullied. I'm sorry that you were harassed. I'm sorry that you were blamed as a victim. I'm sorry that you were ignored. I'm sorry for the lack of justice. I'm sorry that you saw me as some sort of role model, only for me to betray that vision. As we know though, “sorry” doesn’t reverse these issues, and I really don’t know what will. Regardless, I felt I had to say it on behalf of myself and whatever I represented. To all those others that were affected, I’m sorry to them too.

    I wanted to say I am proud I wasn’t entangled in a lot of the things Elysia wrote about. However, I don’t know if that is an accurate statement or not. I feel like I somehow failed her in those problems. Maybe I could have been more observant, whether I was an official or moderator yet or not. Maybe I could have read between the lines. Maybe I could have influenced the culture surrounding me more, especially regarding promotions. This unprompted exchange makes much more sense now:

    Spoiler:
    Session Start (DoIPutNameHere:dangokai): Mon Oct 04 22:16:19 2010 -0400
    [22:16] dangokai: ...sorry...
    [22:16] Zoa: about what
    [22:16] dangokai: KO'ing you
    [22:16] Zoa: lol its just a game
    [22:16] dangokai: xD
    [22:16] dangokai: some people get sooo angry
    [22:16] Zoa: how dare you
    [22:16] Zoa: apologize
    [22:16] dangokai: *grovels*
    [22:16] dangokai: xD
    Session Close (dangokai): Mon Oct 04 22:44:16 2010 -0400


    Regarding the promotion of Monbrey, I don’t think I knew much detail about his transgressions. As far as I knew, Monbrey did something wrong and had already served his punishment to BMG, and he seemed to be a valuable and active contributor to URPG. Punishing him in URPG may have been considered double jeopardy. Maybe HKim and other staff members knew more, but I didn’t. I thought Monbrey was a decent member at the start of URPG on BMG, but I did eventually grow to dislike him, not for the reasons I know today, but for other petty things that I won’t delve into. It actually scares me that in the past I could have possibly seen a chat log like the one Elysia supplied, and that I could have passed it off as something less than despicable. Growing up on old PE2K and URPG AIM chatrooms surely desensitized me to it.

    As for Feng, first of all, I think it should be made clear that there was no actual child pornography. The picture in question was equitable to a bikini picture, although it was understandably embarrassing, there were no ‘nudes’. I feel this is a very important distinction to make. Second, Feng was under my tutelage to some degree and his actions caught me off guard and disturbed me. I chewed him out about it, and Stinky and Haze confronted him too, and in the end the person he wronged came to good terms with him quickly. I’m not entirely sure if they had ill will over each other in the first place. The incident was settled privately between him and that person.

    Spoiler:

    [22:59] Zoa: whyyy
    [23:00] cooldunsparce: uhhh
    [23:00] cooldunsparce: no i didnt?
    [23:00] cooldunsparce: i only sent it to ace
    [23:07] cooldunsparce: [redacted] 8:06 pm
    i never said anything to stinky
    and you couldnt have spread it through the dojo chat
    youre not in there
    cp that to him if you want


    Feng 8:06 pm
    yea exactly
    btw are we cool now
    :-P
    they think
    we are in a cat fight
    @[email protected]



    [redacted] 8:06 pm
    xD
    yeah
    just
    please dont give that to anyone else


    I suppose you could argue that regardless of that person’s feelings, Feng should be punished. That person may have been harmed in ways that we will not fully realize or they may have been hiding their true feelings. However, based on what I knew about that person, I think that sort of sentiment does not apply here, and I believe there are much larger issues here that extend past Feng for this person. As evident by that chat log, Feng had an okay relationship with this person, unlike someone else who did a similar thing, but more maliciously, and punishment was delivered in that case.

    Back then, I also held a belief that anything that occurs outside of URPG does not necessarily concern URPG. Why? Because I felt it at its core, URPG was just about running a game. Who are we to judge and punish for what someone does outside of our realm? If a URPG member punched another URPG member in real life, or physically stole from them, is that something we act on? What if they plagiarized work from another member for a school assignment? If society had already punished someone for their actions, do we do so as well, or did they already pay their due? Many times I’ve read something along the lines of ‘this dude literally sent indecent pictures to another URPG member, I can’t believe you’re defending free speech’. That sort of matter of the fact statement doesn’t really argue anything; appeal to shame is a logical fallacy. If I recall correctly, HKim is a journalism major and I don’t think anyone knew what he was talking about when he was talking about freedom. There are real life parallels about the matter at hand: 1, 2, 3, 4, and there’s much more. The question of whether a school can punish students for off-campus behaviors has reached all the way to the US supreme court! It’s not a simple question, and to say it’s obvious whether a school can or can’t is misguided. Let me summarize my understanding of the subject after reading about it briefly, from Doninger v. Niehoff: “a student may be disciplined for expressive conduct, even conduct occurring off school grounds, when this conduct would foreseeably create a risk of substantial disruption within the school environment, [and] it was similarly foreseeable that the off-campus expression might also reach campus.” Did Monbrey’s actions cause “substantial disruption” within the URPG? You tell me. Did Feng’s actions cause “substantial disruption” within the URPG? I will give a resounding “no” on that one. Can and should the URPG operate with a rule like this? Probably not, given the current atmosphere. But I’m glad I don’t have to think about it; I don’t play the URPG anymore. I'm merely offering an explanation of why I thought this way.

    As for the leaks, first I want to say I consider the leaking a much lesser issue. It’s much less serious and less emotionally damaging than sexual harassment and bullying. However, the leaks are what I have the most to speak about, since that seems to be Elysia’s main qualm against me.

    I'm surprised my actions would be described with words such as "toxic" and "vitriol". When I think of a "toxic" person that spouts "vitriol", I think of someone who berates people, someone who is unusually cruel. I don't think the leaks ever carried any of that hatred. I would argue they were at worst "provoking" and "irritating" instead. I'm not saying my actions were faultless, but I feel Elysia’s representation of them was an exaggeration. They were disruptive to the community, but not destructive. I didn't get members banned in my stead; I got a member, singular, banned, Team Evolution, an old friend. And I would say the staff handled his case terribly. He could have been unbanned easily, but when I offered to help him after my leave...

    Spoiler:
    [01:16:45] Charmander 4 lyf: i wont ask hkim cause his a f***** modified


    He didn't really care that much. He was dealing with much more important things in life.

    About framing HKim, again, there was only one image, singular, that would implicate him and it was not really to frame him; it was more of a joke, since that would seemingly be the most ridiculous and hilarious outcome if HKim was behind it all. Yeah the entire thing was a joke to me. It was not an innocent joke, but it was also not one intended to make people feel like shit either. It was like I was playing a roleplaying game inside a roleplaying game. It was like I was Kira (and Ash K. would’ve been the perfect Near).

    I’ve been trying to figure out why Elysia would paint the situation as caustic as she made it to be. Maybe I’m delusional and selectively remembering things wrongly, but I wouldn’t say leaking the contents of a Pokemon RPG is morally reprehensible. I’m sorry she felt she had to leave after the dust settled. However, I feel our departures were for the best for both of us, and I’m actually glad she did it. The leaks were good in that regard. The URPG was not in the right state for many people, as evident by its culture, although we left for very different reasons in this culture.

    Why did I do it and why did I leave? It started when Team Evolution posted verbatim something found in the staff board that said something along the lines of 'everything we say in here should be secret'. I had supplied him this quote to tease the staff. I supplied him additional quotes later on as well. This eventually led to an overreaction that I had not anticipated at all. Was HKim and company so uptight about trivial remarks being revealed to the public? The whole thing eventually got out of hand though, and I by the time I realized there was no admitting to it without some sort of punitive action, I just continued rolling with it, Tumblr page and all, because of the game within a game it had become.

    I guess the point I was making was that the staff likes to act like a secret club when really most of the stuff they discuss is perfectly shareable in Trainer's Court. I was rebellious and undermining, but there was a point being made. I’m glad I “left a bloody rift and asked a lot of questions that we hadn’t considered before”, because those questions did need addressing. I do hope that today or in the future, the URPG involves all of its members in the decisions it makes. The staff should be considered servants to the rest of the members, not authority assumed to have superior decision making skills. Authority should be questioned, just like it has been in recent times. That is my philosophy about the intent and role of the staff.

    That’s probably not the full explanation of why I did the things that I did, though. There were multiple influencing factors. For example, to me, I had already 'beat' URPG; I mainly cared about battling and I was already URPG champion. I don't remember what I was doing in URPG still and what goals I had. I was in my second year of college. Yet, I continued to play post-game in a game where the DLC didn't interest me. At some point, I started realizing the type of community that the URPG was, and it was just not for me. Maybe it was because I was too old. I was 20, and I was playing an online, inefficient, and tedious text-based game (oh and the graphics suck) with people that were as young as 13. The kind of people Bulbagarden and URPG attracted were no longer the kind of people I was compatible with, and some of them were apparently predators. It was 2012, and there were more technologically advanced ways to play Pokemon and non-Pokemon games, each with their own online communities, some that catered to an older audience. My original URPG and Pokemon friends, the ones I talk to on a nearly daily basis, didn't really play URPG anymore either.

    My vision of the URPG was probably also a very different one. Sure it was meant to be fun, but getting the cool things you wanted shouldn't be too easy to obtain. That's probably something everyone agrees with, but I suppose my definition of easy was more inclusive than others. I opposed giving too much stuff away freely. I was the one that introduced restrictions to FFA rules, since some rules made FFA battles really quick and the payouts would remain the same for the battlers and the ref, despite minimal effort. There was a lot of backlash about this and other policy decisions I may have made, and I started thinking the general community was aggravated over me.

    Lastly, I was fed up with HKim. It just felt entirely wrong that this guy was in charge of URPG. This guy that didn't even play URPG was in charge of it all, almost by happenstance. This was a guy that would delegate responsibilities and disappear for extended periods of time, yet consider himself some kind of leader. How can he have ultimate say over what goes on and doesn't go on? Has he even participated in a non-FFA battle, contest, RP, written a story, or made art since I last played? This was a guy that was so out of touch that URPG was evicted from Bulbagarden. This was a guy that always appears on the outside as friendly and pure, yet is in many ways manipulative and deceptive. HKim’s posts are all about nice words, yet they are empty words with no substance and little action. HKim isn’t evil, but in some ways he fits lawful evil more than lawful good. That said, I do believe HKim did what he thought was right often, and honestly, a lot of this paragraph was just to vent and a lot of it is unfair. I appreciate a lot of what HKim has done and how he handles certain things, but sometimes he just feels ‘fake’ and ineffective to me.

    That summarizes why I did it. Does it make it okay? Not really. But I don’t believe the leaks were as heinous as described. That is also why I believe the ‘punishment’ I received was an appropriate one. If you leak things that you’re not supposed to, you should be brought back to a normal member so you don’t have the opportunity anymore. I didn’t harass anyone and I didn’t cheat, I was just being a dick to authority as authority.

    As for my demotion being a resignation instead, I will say it was a pretty good strategic move by HKim. Back then, I was very much ready to argue my innocence in a public forum and explain how none of the evidence was solid enough. However, none of that ever happened, and it probably saved everyone a lot of time and energy after the disruptive nature of the leaks. Most people were able to put one and one together anyway, and I’m sure the true nature of my situation was ironically leaked anyway; it’s all in the open now, in this very moment at least?

    Spoiler:
    [18:37:26] Zoa: you can believe what you want but its not true
    [18:38:20] HKimF: I find it hard to believe that someone would go through all this trouble to frame you.
    [18:38:41] Zoa: i dont
    [18:39:15] HKimF: Sigh
    [18:39:35] HKimF: Pidge, I'd like to ask you to resign your position.
    [18:39:55] Zoa: if you want
    [18:40:07] HKimF: I do.
    [18:40:19] Zoa: im done with urpg and have contributed much more than most others
    [18:40:24] Zoa: including you
    [18:40:34] Zoa: dont tarnish my 'name'
    [18:40:42] Zoa: by saying im something im not
    [18:40:48] HKimF: I acknowledge that you've done a lot of good here Pidge.
    [18:41:29] HKimF: You have a lot of respect in this community.
    [18:41:36] HKimF: I don't intend to make this a public spectacle.
    [18:41:50] Zoa: i dont [about the respect thing]
    [18:41:56] Zoa: times have changed
    [18:42:09] Zoa: ive grown increasingly annoyed by the community
    [18:42:16] Zoa: and they have to me
    [18:43:49] HKimF: Perhaps. While I agree that members disagree with you, many have said they still respect you.
    [18:43:54] Zoa: im not longer compatible
    [18:44:00] Zoa: *no
    [18:45:13] HKimF: I do want to wish you luck on whatever endeavors you embark on.


    This was my side of the story. One of the reasons I wrote this was because I hate being misrepresented, and I felt that is what happened in “Adamantine” and other recent posts that have mentioned me. If Elysia or anyone else thinks I’m a piece of shit after reading this, I think that’s fair; I just didn’t want anyone to think that without seeing my response first, especially those that revered me once and those that have never interacted with me.

    ---

    What advice can I offer to the URPG at its current state? I’ve actually written this over the past few days and I’ve had to go back and rewrite several things with all the new developments taking place and the new posts. I am optimistic about the new leadership that has risen, and I feel it is a major step in the right direction. I already see attempts at comprehensively defining what isn’t acceptable behavior and where it applies. You’re being specific and that’s good. Every situation should be taken case-by-case, but have some rough guidelines on corresponding punishments too.

    Members should be reminded of one of the most powerful tools against harassment and bullying: the block and ignore features on Discord and the forums. It’s not a solution and it’s not perfect, sometimes you may be forced to interact with someone if they are a ref, ranger, judge, etc., but it’s useful; just find TheEvilDookie and ask him.

    Transparency is a word that has been thrown around a lot, and it’s a good word, but I think democracy is another one that can be paired with it. Let the players have more say in how things end up, like how the multiple RP sections will play out. Schedule special events in advance and have a calendar with specific dates and times; develop it as a community. Reserve the staff boards for only the most sensitive things that require privacy.

    I also want to remind people that URPG shouldn’t be your life. There are many more things we can do for fun, for knowledge, and for the betterment of our lives and others. Take a break every once in a while. Try something new or old in the real world. Explore other online communities, maybe with some friends you made in URPG. The best part about URPG is not in one of the seven sections Elysia mentioned, but in the eighth section of socializing, which exists in places elsewhere. I hope Elysia has been keeping up with the friends she has made in the URPG like I have with my friends.

    The following is my most ambitious idea. I believe in much more for the battling section of URPG. Like I alluded to before, URPG is inefficient and tedious. Why the hell does it take hours to complete a 6v6 battle? Even smaller size battles can take a while. Why do we have to rely on a ref to process these battles? I think these are the greatest detractions when an outsider looks at URPG and thinks about joining. My idea would be to implement Pokemon Showdown! for URPG battles. Not necessarily as a replacement, but as an addition, at least for now. Currently you are actually allowed to make teams with Pokemon having up to 24 moves and maximal EVs. All you have to do is type the additional moves and EVs in the team builder, and when you challenge another person, select ‘Custom Game’. For a URPG battle, you can choose to allow people to mess with natures or not.

    Spoiler:



    If implemented, you can choose to eliminate, reduce, or limit payments for these battles as you please. If you wanted to stick with a purer URPG ruleset, you will need some people with programming knowledge, but modifying a server to have no critical hits, always use the median random number in the damage formula, allowing for up to 250 moves, and locking the team builder from modifying natures isn’t out of reach when there already exists hundreds of other experimental metagames. Implementing public battle rules would be a greater challenge, however.

    If anyone has any questions or comments about anything in this post, wants to have a test Showdown! battle with the Pokemon in our stats, or just wants to talk, my Discord is zoa#0986.

    Bye?
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    Hi.

    I had absolutely no idea where to do this. When I was banned, I thought about coming back and making one big post; from where I was, I thought I deserved that much. But over the 3 months I got to cool off. I got to really think about my priorities, my friends, and the people I'd wronged. I didn't plan on writing this post anymore. I completely disconnected.

    And that wasn't fair.

    It wasn't fair to the people still in URPG, struggling as they watched literally everything falling down around them. It wasn't fair to the people that I, and others, had wronged. It wasn't fair to the people leaving, disgusted with everything that had happened, or those who simply didn't feel anything about the game they had poured so much time into.

    I won't pretend to truly know the extent of those feelings; People literally *left* over this. It was, and is, a big deal. I can't think about what was, because in the end, I am the one who threw it all away, even if there are a lot of other factors and events that have come out with it.

    I don't want to launch into what I did; I think more than enough threads have been made about it than I would ever need to say again. I have been back in URPG for almost 2 days now; I've seen the impact it has had. And, if you'll let me be selfish, I hope we can rebuild. It will never be the same URPG as it was before November, before August, before January of last year before I joined, but it *will be URPG*.

    I know there's been a lot of rambling in this post. I plan to keep it short. For both myself, and for everyone in the "zoo server" where this all started, I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart. I know I've apologized a lot over my year at URPG; I've been called out on it, but at the very least I hope people know I mean it. Elysia especially, I never treated fairly and I truly, deeply apologize. I have caused damage to the game I truly did (and now, do) enjoy from the bottom of my heart. But I'm here now, ready to at least try to repair it. I hope all of you who have left, at some point in the future, if your situations provide, can forgive me, and us. I know I would welcome you back with open arms if you so chose.

    And if anyone wants to talk about it, I'll be here on Discord. weirlind120#0120.

    Thanks, and to the future,
    weirlind120

    Last edited by weirlind120; 03-12-18 at 11:03 PM.
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